Interview - Full Response

Thomas Moore   with The Rev. Wayne Walder

(TM):

Yes of course, the solution there I think is one that I’m very interested in. I don’t know if this applies to your situation or not.

I think there’s been a big mistake in separating the spiritual from the worldly, the earthly and the ordinary. We think if we could only retreat from this horrible materialistic world and find some spiritual bliss that everything would be fine.

I don’t think it works that way. I think the way it works is that the world itself is the source of spiritual nourishment. Everyday life, the things of the world and everyday pleasures are really what we are looking for. You know, this is our goal ultimately. And when we don’t separate those things (spirituality and everyday life), there is a better chance of us understanding them both.

We know trying to create a utopian world is a never ending struggle. If we try to make that happen, we will be unhappy and we will likely do a lot of damage in this world. We can work on ourselves within the broken world.